I'm sick of this story.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/07/15/bc-robin-long-deportation-expected.html
Look at him! He was living in Nelson. He wasn't dodging the army, he was cooked and forgot what was going on. Fuck them, they join the ARMY and refuse to deploy - fuck em. I don't want to pay their way. I happen to have a great story about a war dodger who now works at the mine. He's forgotten the truth about where he's actually from, and the Daily News here in the Loops regularly prints his trash. But that's another story. He was of a generation when they were drafted and forced into a ridiculous war. This generation signed up, and now, scared shitless of yet another ridiculous war. Then they seek asylum in my country. While this nation's soldiers die. Fuck these losers, boot their sorry asses back to a military jail.
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I'd like to believe you're right, but you're wrong.
When a person signs up to join his/her country's armed forces that person is putting their faith in a system that will lead them correctly. The American leadership threw it's people into a "war" that is completely unnecessary and completely bullshit. I have no problem with this. A soldier has to stand up too.
There's a great story about a WW2 airborne division (from the US) that was on the verge of being sent in to battle with a terrible Captain as their ground leader. He was simply incompetent and would have got them all killed within ten minutes of hitting the ground. Several of the soldiers took the risk of the death penalty by handing in papers saying they would quit if they had to go to war with this Captain. The Captain was reassigned and the division was given a new leader. The majority of them went on to survive D-Day and continue fighting hard till the end of the war. They were E Company of the 101st Airborne. Their story can be seen in Band of Brothers, the best war tale ever told.
Anyways, the point is, a soldier has the right to proper leadership, and if it's not there they should have sanctuary. Unfortunately, the bad leadership in the U.S. is at the top, and the only place they can find sanctuary is here. Canada should be ashamed to force them back.
Also, our soldiers shouldn't even be in Afghanistan. Do you really think they're making a difference in the long run? If you do, you're wrong again.
He didn't stand up. He ran away.
Boyz, you bring up some good points.
This guy enlisted to serve his country. That is, he made a conscious choice as to what he was doing. Any comparison between his refusing to go to Iraq and those individuals who decades previously were conscripted/drafted and "dodged" the draft is moot. You cannot compare apples and oranges (or evaders and dodgers).
Here is what I think this guy should have done. Realizing that he did not want to participate in what many would argue is a questionable war he should have refused to go, remained in the US, and used their judicial system to fight his fight, makes his views known, etc.
Instead, he chose to go to Nelson where who know what he contributed to that society (other than some more second-hand smoke).
Fair enough on the above point. He should have refused to go and fought the ensuing fight at home. However, in his defense, he was probably quite young at the time (the army likes to get them before they're men), got paranoid and ran for the border. And the paranoia could have come for a host of reasons. Who knows if he smokes pot. Geez, just because a guy lives in Nelson and had dreads...
I don't believe that Mr. Long was the naive young man Therzo assumes.
From a July 14 article in the Globe:
Mr. Long, who fled to Ontario in 2005, had signed up to join the U.S. Army in July, 2003. He believed at that time that his country was justified in going to war in Iraq, his lawyer Shepherd Moss said at the court hearing to halt the deportation. Mr. Long intended to train as a tank commander. “He wanted to go to defend his country,” Mr. Moss said.
His perspective changed while in training at the army base at Fort Knox. After hearing that weapons of mass destruction had not been found in Iraq, Mr. Long thought the U.S. had no reason for being at war. Also, he was troubled by evidence of abuse of Iraqi detainees that came out in May of 2004, Mr. Moss said.
Mr. Long concluded the abuse was systemic and condoned by the U.S. administration, Mr. Moss said. After some soul-searching, Mr. Long decided he would not go to Iraq and would not participate or be complicit in what he believed were war crimes, the lawyer said.
So, Long had been in the army for some time and thus should have worked within that system to get out of his service "contract" rather than desert. It would seem that Canada was quite correct in not supporting his plea for refugee status and deporting him.
God Therzo, as you said yesterday, a little bullying does people good!
But I thought we have a labour shortage in this country. Shouldn't we be welcoming anyone and everyone? Especially if they're willing to live away from the large metropolis cities.
First, I would not hire a person who did not honour a contract. Second, look at him. What good ever came from that get-up?
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